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[TTT]

Scottish football has been rocked this afternoon by the announcement that Glasgow Rangers plans to enter into administration.

The current Scottish Premier League champions lodged legal papers signalling their intention to enter administration with the Court of Session in Edinburgh at lunchtime.

It is believed Rangers now have five days in which to declare formally that administrators have taken over the running of the club.
Financial problems: Scottish football has been rocked this afternoon after Glasgow Rangers revealed plans to enter into administration

Financial problems: Scottish football has been rocked this afternoon after Glasgow Rangers revealed plans to enter into administration

If administration is confirmed it will result in Rangers being docked 10 league points, which would put them 14 points behind the current leaders Celtic - almost certainly ruling them out of retaining the championship.

It would also lead to an embargo on player transfers and the club's top players could be sold on at the next transfer window.


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Other players could be made redundant or asked to take pay cuts.

The firm prospect of administration will come as no surprise to Rangers fans or the rest of Scottish football.

The Ibrox club is awaiting the verdict of a tax tribunal which could cost it around £49million.
Problems: The owner of Glasgow Rangers Craig Whyte will be facing a difficult week
Concerns: Last week former Rangers chairman Alastair Johnston revealed he had asked the Government's Insolvency Service to clarify 'certain financial arrangements' relating to the takeover of the club

Difficult days: Former Rangers chairman Alastair Johnston, right, has raised concerns about the takeover of the club by owner Craig Whyte, left

The HMRC case centres around the use of employee benefits trusts (EBTs) which were in place before Craig Whyte took over from Sir David Murray last May.

The tribunal verdict is imminent but it looks like the club has pre-empted any decision.

Mr Whyte, who bought Sir David's shares for £1 and pledged to pay off £18million of debt to Lloyds Banking Group, has seen his short tenure shrouded in controversy.

Last week former Rangers chairman Alastair Johnston revealed he had asked the Government's Insolvency Service to clarify 'certain financial arrangements' relating to the takeover of the club.

Mr Whyte had earlier admitted securing funds from loan company Tickets in lieu of future season ticket sales.

Mr Johnston told the BBC: 'Rangers' stakeholders are now demanding full transparency.

'I have had numerous approaches following the recent revelations in the press about the acquisition of Rangers Football Club and the use of future season ticket money.
Formal: Glasgow Rangers lodged legal papers signalling its intention to enter administration with the Court of Session in Edinburgh, pictured, at lunchtime

Formal: Glasgow Rangers lodged legal papers signalling its intention to enter administration with the Court of Session in Edinburgh, pictured, at lunchtime

'I am not in a position to answer all the questions put to me, but I do recognise the issue is causing much concern.

'I believe this is a prevalent view amongst Rangers' stakeholders who are now demanding full transparency about the funding of the acquisition of the club, its current financial status, and most importantly, the way forward.'

Earlier this month, Mr Whyte admitted Rangers could be about to face the 'toughest few weeks' in the club’s history.

Manager Ally McCoist said that, because of the club’s finances, the welfare of Rangers was presently more important than results on the park.

A Scottish Premier League spokesman has confirmed that a 10-point deduction and a transfer embargo would only be put in place when administration was confirmed.

The spokesman said: 'At this point in time Rangers are not in administration and we await developments.

'The instant that they are technically in administration there will be an automatic 10-point deduction and, perhaps of less relevance, an embargo on player registrations.

'If administration is confirmed, as we have done previously, we would be looking to work with the administrators and would be looking for a very early meeting.'

Despite the fact that papers have been lodged with Scotland’s highest civil court, it is understood that there is no requirement for a court hearing to be held.

Daily Mail

[bluboiz]

these so called business groups are the down fall of rangers

[TTT]

The Scottish league would be as good as done in that case. British sports are weird sometimes, Nothern Ireland plays with Republic of Ireland in rugby if i am not mistaken and at the Olympics they compete as Great Britain but with footy they are separate. They might as well play in the English divisions if either of the big 2 fold

[Mujambajecha]

To hell with Rangers. The fans are racist bastards When i was new here i walked into a pub during a Celtic- Rangers game and you must have seen the stirs i got. I ignored it but could feel something was wrong until an elderly man who was going to the told me "son for a coloured guy, you are in the wrong place, this is a Rangers pub"

Rangers is for queen and country and all that shite while Celtic is the anti establishment team and mostly for the immigrant catholic Irish who were discreminated against and all that

[TTT]

The Rangers fans are the ones  that had the Nakamura ate my dog chants or posters

[John Kachere]

Mujambajecha, on 14 February 2012 - 01:13 AM, said:

To hell with Rangers. The fans are racist bastards When i was new here i walked into a pub during a Celtic- Rangers game and you must have seen the stirs i got. I ignored it but could feel something was wrong until an elderly man who was going to the told me "son for a coloured guy, you are in the wrong place, this is a Rangers pub"

Rangers is for queen and country and all that shite while Celtic is the anti establishment team and mostly for the immigrant catholic Irish who were discreminated against and all that

Muchinyanya kuda kukwanakwana pose pose... In BF ungataura here? Its the same sahwira!

Tozokuvudzai kuti you can not support foreign teams moramba. Its not feasible to associate yourself nezvisiri zvako. Kwahi na Golonice "...we do what we want..." iwevo hako kuzvivona uri part ye ManU?       Unovona some self haters pafacebook vachitotukana kwahi "...takudyai...in  Wenger we trust..." Aaaaah! Aaaah. tobva tasumudza zvedu kambo ka Master of Song "...Mukumbirireivo  apepuke..."

[Dancing Bear]

How is that different from a Shona person who supports Highlanders walking into Gijima night club on 8th St? Blaz iwe hauna nyaya, football at its 'barest' is pure, the grow upers who spoil it are the rowdy elements like the ones who murdered 78 in Egypt recently. As Pele said, the game is beautiful, spoilt occassionally by a few rotten apples.

[Dancing Bear]

I lived in Skies in the 90's.......each time Dynamos came to town, the Highlanders rowdy elements would go to the train station to 'meet' the Dynamos fans coming on the overnight train. I was and still am ashamed as a passionate Highlanders fan of such behaviour. A rivalry that can be equated to the great rivalries of the footballing world soiled by brainless pricks. How is that different from Mujamba getting shyte from brainless uneducated Rangers fans in a pub?

Regardless, I can not bring myself to support Dynamos, I hate them with a passion and rationalise by knowing the vast majority of Highlanders fans are good people despite being Shona. If we followed your logic nobody would support the game we love bro.

[John Kachere]

You confuse being a passionate supporter and hooliganism... How does a born and bread muvhitori support Bosso... No ways!!!!!! let alone support a foreign team

In BF you must not/can not support Bosso in Shona. Thats just not on. Highlanders is the identity of Matebeleland... The very fact thet clubs are based where they are is the lines that divide the spporters.

[mablazo]

now a Shona can't support Highlanders? or somebody from Chipinge can't support Dynamos? or from Chegutu support CAPS? You'll lead a sad life if you live so strightjacket

[Dancing Bear]

John Kachere, on 14 February 2012 - 07:03 AM, said:

You confuse being a passionate supporter and hooliganism... How does a born and bread muvhitori support Bosso... No ways!!!!!! let alone support a foreign team

In BF you must not/can not support Bosso in Shona. Thats just not on. Highlanders is the identity of Matebeleland... The very fact thet clubs are based where they are is the lines that divide the spporters.

Nonsense

[John Kachere]

mablazo, on 14 February 2012 - 07:14 AM, said:

now a Shona can't support Highlanders? or somebody from Chipinge can't support Dynamos? or from Chegutu support CAPS? You'll lead a sad life if you live so strightjacket

Off course you cant mablazo! There is a reason why we have Masvingo United for the province of Masvingo. You had Tanganda for Manicaland.

Dembare for all those born location dzemumbare...

My life will not be sad, I will know my boundaries handizogwadziwi kana ndikatariswa neziso mubhawa ravaridzi, actuakly handitombosviki pakutarigwa nokuti I know my boundaries.

I dont know what you miss about identity and sports people...I dont know      

[John Kachere]

On another note; DID YOU SEE OUR BOYS'INNINGS IN HAMILTON... Great stuff ...!!!! M close to tears; that was some batting

[basweety]

Oh kachere i knew u were mampara but did not you would go this low.I supported and continue to support Bosso because of their play which I found to be attractive,despite being a shona.I sm afraid for you.With your reasoning am sure you can easily kill in the name of tribe

[Sir Alex]

Dancing Bear, on 14 February 2012 - 06:42 AM, said:

I lived in Skies in the 90's.......each time Dynamos came to town, the Highlanders rowdy elements would go to the train station to 'meet' the Dynamos fans coming on the overnight train. I was and still am ashamed as a passionate Highlanders fan of such behaviour. A rivalry that can be equated to the great rivalries of the footballing world soiled by brainless pricks. How is that different from Mujamba getting shyte from brainless uneducated Rangers fans in a pub?

Regardless, I can not bring myself to support Dynamos, I hate them with a passion and rationalise by knowing the vast majority of Highlanders fans are good people despite being Shona. If we followed your logic nobody would support the game we love bro.

Bosso has always been a Southern Zim team (Matland and Midlands), while Dembare has always been Mash and Manicaland. It is different because Mujamba had nothing to do with Catholism versus the establishment and was discriminated not because he is a Celtic fan, but purely on his skin color.

[Mujambajecha]

John Kachere, on 14 February 2012 - 05:08 AM, said:

Muchinyanya kuda kukwanakwana pose pose... In BF ungataura here? Its the same sahwira!

Tozokuvudzai kuti you can not support foreign teams moramba. Its not feasible to associate yourself nezvisiri zvako. Kwahi na Golonice "...we do what we want..." iwevo hako kuzvivona uri part ye ManU?       Unovona some self haters pafacebook vachitotukana kwahi "...takudyai...in  Wenger we trust..." Aaaaah! Aaaah. tobva tasumudza zvedu kambo ka Master of Song "...Mukumbirireivo  apepuke..."

[Mujambajecha]

Dancing Bear, on 14 February 2012 - 06:35 AM, said:

How is that different from a Shona person who supports Highlanders walking into Gijima night club on 8th St? Blaz iwe hauna nyaya, football at its 'barest' is pure, the grow upers who spoil it are the rowdy elements like the ones who murdered 78 in Egypt recently. As Pele said, the game is beautiful, spoilt occassionally by a few rotten apples.

Mate you dont know what you are talking about. The Celtic- Rangers rivalry extends far beyond football to politics, religion etc. My brother in law hates football but he has everything Celtic, even dresses his 1 year old son in full Celtic regalia. Not because he loves the team per se but he says he is sending a message. "love protestants, love the queen" and all that. Celtic teenagers will have I.R. A posters in their bedroom while Rangers ones will have UVF, UDF paramilitary posters and so on.


I could have been a Protestant, a supporter of the monarch, how would those Rangers have known. Point is they dont care, Rangers fans wave the British flag (Celtic fans usually fly Irish flag) and if you know what that means race wise (out with immigrants, god save the queen etc), case closed. There is a village called Armadale here few miles from me, that is a no go area for Celtic fans and on match day Celtic fan buses on way to the game get police escort when they pass through there, now you walk into a pub there and you will see when its Rangers vs Celtic


Like i said it extends far beyond football. Come summer time and its marching season, when the Orange Order do their marches, they will be flying British flags and the men and boys cheering on will be wearing their Glasgow Rangers tops. Celtic fans will be shouting abuse at them and taunting them and again police have to be there for the march otherwise it kicks off. Serious Rangers fans are also members of the Orange Lodge. Funny story i had a scottish weekend special, she was brought up a die hard Rangers fan and was even a treasurer in the Orange Lodge but girls will be girls and follow their hearts and she took a liking to me. In her words her "dad doesnt like coloured folks and he is going to kill me if this gets out". One day we in her house drinking and my mate was also over and out the blue her dad just walked in. He just stood there, looked at her and me and walked ut not a word

Rangers fans and Orange Parade

[Mujambajecha]

John Kachere, on 14 February 2012 - 07:23 AM, said:

Off course you cant mablazo! There is a reason why we have Masvingo United for the province of Masvingo. You had Tanganda for Manicaland.

Dembare for all those born location dzemumbare...

My life will not be sad, I will know my boundaries handizogwadziwi kana ndikatariswa neziso mubhawa ravaridzi, actuakly handitombosviki pakutarigwa nokuti I know my boundaries.

I dont know what you miss about identity and sports people...I dont know      

I absolutely get what you mean Kachere. Sometimes we are quick to jump into supporting foreign teams without really knowing what they stand for to their fans

[TTT]

The reason the sport is as big as it is comes down to being able to open its doors to a wider audience. European fans laugh at glory hunters but without them a lot of those clubs wouldnt have the profile nor the ability to attract top names. I see a lot of the same questions Kachere asked on English team forums where fans sometimes ask the nationality and location of the other supporters on club forums, some even use it as an insult by referring to the fans as tourists without realising that the old appeal of football clubs stopped when they increasingly commercialized the sport and became PLCs in England.The City fans claim that they have more fans in Manchester and we know the point they are trying to drive there even though their saving grace had nothing to do with the area. I see people with such holdups as pining for a time when football was different and refuse to move on, English clubs are a special case of the globalization of the sport and even if the old stereotypes of Spurs having lots of Jewish fans and the working class influence of cities such as Liverpool have given way to comemrcial interests and thats why StanChart could intervene in their sporting matters.

[Kemestry]

Muja am reminded of a tale from a late great aunty who had briefly spent time in Glasgow after the 2nd world war...

She told me back in the day, protestants, rangers fans, loyalist hooligans or however they chose to identify themselves on the day would go door to door hunting for phinions(sp)or Catholics if like, if unsure they would place the burden of proof upon you and ask you to prove otherwise.

And when they reached her house and asked... "are you catholic or protestant?", she went "am neither", then she says they went "oh! so what are you then you must be something?" and when they heard she was Jewish... they went "are you Jewish protestant or Jewish catholic then?"     


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