temba, on 08 March 2012 - 05:29 PM, said:
I think there is very little that separates you and nabu!
You are so quick to trash other people's comments before you ask them questions that MIGHT make you understand what they are talking about. That is very sad!
What is this little that seperates me from nabu? And what is that great thing that seperates your from me and nabu?When you say, “Please know this for a fact, that the True Church are not the "saved"!” I do not wait for an answer since you have already given the answer. Such a statement alone is enough to judge somebody lost.
Sure it is very sad!
temba, on 08 March 2012 - 05:29 PM, said:
This is why its so difficult for you to see the TWO lines that started from Eve!
These two lines started their debut with you. None of the appostles nor the prophets taught us about these two lines.
temba, on 08 March 2012 - 05:29 PM, said:
First of all, could you tell us what a newly born child will repent of?
That should be the second question, the first should be “what is repentance?”, then you can ask the next question. Anyway, I will answer so that you do not go unanswered: according to Romans 10:3, the infants who believe the gospel wherein the righteousness of God is revealed are regenerate, and the infants who are ignorant of the righteousness of God revealed in the gospel are unregenerate. Infants do have the capacity to understand. We have an example in the Bible of a person who had a less-developed brain than most people who are mentally retarded -- John the Baptist. John leaped because he understood. For an infant to be saved, he would have to be under the sound of the TRUE gospel, of course. So when we're talking about the children of heathen and any others who have never heard the gospel, it is impossible for them to be saved.
temba, on 08 March 2012 - 05:29 PM, said:
Secondly, could you use these "pharisaic" statements of yours to explain the following scripture:
Rom.9:[11] (For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth;)
[12] It was said unto her, The elder shall serve the younger.
[13] As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.
I hope you can see that one of these children was born "saved"!!
The verses you gave do not say anything to that effect nand neither do they imply what you are saying. The verse says,
“Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated” It did not say “Jacob have I “saved”, but Esau have I “not saved”.
temba, on 08 March 2012 - 05:29 PM, said:
The Bible instructs us that BEFORE creation, Jesus was crucified to redeem all whose names were in the Book of Life (Revelation 13:8; I John 1:2), in other words Jesus died to redeem Adam and his kindred. The Book of Life was written from the foundation of the world. In other words it was complete when "time" began and God started bringing His creation to manifestation (Genesis 1:1; John 1:1-5; Revelation 17:8.) We are accounted "not guilty" if we live by faith, or have the mind of Christ. In other words we were justified before creation!
Romans 8:29-30 answers this question: "Because whom He foreknew, He also predestinated [to be] conformed to the image of His Son, for Him to be [the] Firstborn among many brothers. But whom He predestinated, these He also called; and whom He called, these He also justified; and whom He justified, these He also glorified." Note that in this verse God's people are called, justified, and glorified. This does not mean that they were already called, justified, and glorified temporally in their persons. So there is a time in each elect person's life that he is loved by God as considered in the eternal decree of God and temporally under God's wrath before the righteousness of Christ is imputed to him.
temba, on 08 March 2012 - 05:29 PM, said:
That is not true because some of those on that Book of Life will be removed, depending on what they do with the LIVING WORD (Jesus Christ) of their day!!
Whoever believes on the only begotten Son of God will never have his name removed from the Book of Life. It is a lie that “some of those on that Book of Life will be removed”. All those who the father gives to the Son will be kept until the last day. The Lord Jesus Christ makes sure that none will be lost.
temba, on 08 March 2012 - 05:29 PM, said:
A newly born child has nothing to repent of, neither is he able to believe the gospel. So this statement is full of denominational blinkers! Election is the key as testified by scripture here:
I have already answered you as regards this wishful thinking of yours. It is impossible to please God without faith. So for any child to please God he must have faith. If the child does not have faith in Jesus Christ that child will not be saved since he does not please God. And scripture cannot be broken so as to fulfil Temba’s prenominations.
temba, on 08 March 2012 - 05:29 PM, said:
On top of that, the "devils also believe, and tremble" (James 2:19).
What do "the devils also believe, and tremble" at? Devils do not believe the gospel, unless you do not know(as you have shown), what the gospel is.
temba, on 08 March 2012 - 05:29 PM, said:
Well that is your prerogative! But, like I said above, one needs to read my post on:
"Would you identify yourself with SHEEP, GOATS or some Mysterious Beings??"
I read it. Some of these things you people write about,..? Why do you people write things you do not know? Infact, I lacked the correct words to respond to it because of the disgusting stuff in the thread.
temba, on 08 March 2012 - 05:29 PM, said:
[color="#8B0000"]That is if you really know what Jesus Christ is. One has to know that Jesus Christ is the LIVING WORD of one's DAY.
I am a christian. There is no way I cannot know who my Lord is, and you knowing Him. Please know that I am not interested in any of those ‘pentecostal movement dogmas’ as they are dung to me.
Glory be to God Alone
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