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[Akwasi]

Sometimes we can't help but think that there is no way GOD can forgive some of the things that we do. I am a Christian who is married to a Godly and virtuous woman. The LORD has been good to this family but I have dome something very stupid which I think the LORD will look on me with disappointment.

About two weeks ago, my wife told me a revelation about me having an affair with two women. I was not in any relationship and because of the believe that I had that I was not fallible, I got complacent and treated it lightly.

Three days ago, the LORD gave me a revelation. In the revelation, I was having an affair with a lady and again, I ignored it and never even prayed against it because I believed I could not fall.

The next day, which was yesterday, I did the unthinkable. I slept with the very lady I saw in the dream and the way the thing happened is still a mystery to me. To make things worse, that was the very day that I had completed reading the Bible from cover to cover.

I prayed and cried to the LORD for forgiveness. I am just lost for words because just today, Thursday, I slept with another woman. Amazingly, that lady was one of the ladies my wife told me about.

This may sound dumb, but once again, I can say with all the little credibility left in me that I was caught by surprise. The shocking thing is that this lady told me about a dream that she had. Guess what, I was having sex with her!

All this seems like a dream and I can't believe my 'holy' life have come crashing down. I feel like crying but I believe that will be crocodile tears. I know there is only one way to this and that is to ask the ALMIGHTY to forgive me.

Please remember me in your prayers. I can't even bring myself to get on my knees to pray to the LORD. This is very very damaging to me.

[Will B. Free]

May I ask how these revelations are given to you and how you know it really is God? Remember in the bible Saul consulted a witch at Endor.

But adultery is forgivable by God.  There is a sin that is unforgivable and am sure you came across that as you read page by page.

Your wife's revelation is that you will sleep with two women, have you started praying against that?

[polymath]

Very intresting confession you have written. It takes courage and throwing away pride to admit you have fallen. Its refreshing to read and ponder on from the philosophical debates that have thronged this forum on whether im a serpent seed and you are not. It shows that we need the basics in life at times .... the bread of life. We are but children anxious to receive learn from God the right paths for our lives.

Could you kindly admit to tell what your response would have been if you had had a revelation on the following:

If you had seen yourself taken ill or having some other painfull affliction? (God forbid this i am not suggesting it to you ...but theoretically speaking as your testing started theoretically)

My question is how would you have responded? Answer this honestly to yourself.

Obviously in line with the particular case you embraced the pleasure and gave in to this weakness which may have been a part of your past nature (without inferring too much into your past) and the enemy might have taken this as an opportunity to draw you in your weakness.). I will try to look up a good book i read a couple of years ago  from an annointed minister who had experience with satanic cults. His experience was that there are demonic watchers in the spritual realm assigned to most loctations on this globe (the so called territorial/familiar spirits) and whenever there is a move of God (in someone's life - the demons see this by the Holy Spirit kindled in you) they alert the demons with your specific weakness to come and test you. Remember Job? satan thought he had read Job right through and knew where he would fall....but Job proved faithfull to God.....more faithful than most men living in this day.



Regarding the revival you were going through... I am tempted to add you were closer to God than you think and had you waited ..... you might have delayed His blessing in your haste to satisfy your flesh.

Jesus was tempeted 3 times in the wilderness at his weakest moment in life (when he was hungry for 40 days ... imagine how mixed up his physical sensory perception was wracked up after a gruelling fast like this) but He prevailed over the temptation. From there He was lifted to the service which has called us all to gather in his name and be children of God.

Sexual sin has many dangers because it  also has a spiritual dimension. The two ladies you slept with - what were there motives? What role do they play in your life? Are they single? married? Where to after the sin i.e. how are you going to interact with these ladies in future? Do they not lust after you? When you repent you will need to ensure that both of them know your position and they too have the responsibility of repenting. What if they want to commit this relationship for ever or till they break your marriage? How will you deal with that? Dont think of yourself in the solution. 4 parties are involved.

Nevertheless - confess to your wife - to confirm that indeed you have sinned and more importantly confess to God and repent of this sin. avoid the circumstances that led to you sin to arise again.

Read and meditate on this scripture : James 1:14

You will realise it points to something .... You do not end up in France when you boarded a bus to Buhera...it has never happened in this lifetime. So every journey you take in life means you planned it before you set off. You knew which bus to take, where all the stops are and what to anticipate when you arrive at your destination.

But two journeys in a short space of time !!!....that must have taken some decent planning and anticipation beforehand.


Peace!

[generaldexter]

Okey, You were Holy that is why?

God does that to humble you. Now you will understand grace. Now you not depend on your work anyumore because if you do - You know where you are going.

Now narrow is the way and few will find it. And we fight not with Flesh and blood (because i see a carefully planned scheme by the devil in your case)

This One thing you have to do is to Confess To Your wife whom you were unfaithful to. (Apa ndo pakaoma chiChristu manje, God give you grace to Repent First in Your heart before confessing)

If you do that meaning it then you can go to God, he will forgive you.

May your heart Repent from this and no be hardened. And may God give thee Grace.

I am sorry this happenned to you.

[polymath]

generaldexter, on 16 March 2012 - 09:23 AM, said:

Okey, You were Holy that is why?

God does that to humble you. Now you will understand grace. Now you not depend on your work anyumore because if you do - You know where you are going.

God does what general?

[generaldexter]

polymath, on 16 March 2012 - 09:33 AM, said:

God does what general?

Hahahahahah kikikiki

God allows things to happen for a purpose so that you realise that you need HIM

You think he did not know? If You get puffed up God Reduces you, but by no way cast you off.

That is why (if you see my speach) I am always humble because i know it is long way to heaven

Gal.6
1. Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted.

[polymath]

generaldexter, on 16 March 2012 - 09:55 AM, said:

Hahahahahah kikikiki

God allows things to happen for a purpose so that you realise that you need HIM

You think he did not know? If You get puffed up God Reduces you, but by no way cast you off.

That is why (if you see my speach) I am always humble because i know it is long way to heaven

Gal.6
1. Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted.

Its non specific words like things and thats which i couldnt follow. But I do know one thing for sure God does not tempt anyone, He can allow you to be tempted because the devil wants to make a reality check....Are you sincere to God or to your flesh. i.e. you can be sincere and be a wrongdoer.


K.

Who spoke of pride in the response?

[generaldexter]

polymath, on 16 March 2012 - 10:03 AM, said:

Its non specific words like things and thats which i couldnt follow. But I do know one thing for sure God does not tempt anyone, He can allow you to be tempted because the devil wants to make a reality check....Are you sincere to God or to your flesh. i.e. you can be sincere and be a wrongdoer.


K.

Who spoke of pride in the response?

2] A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;
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[6] Not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the devil.

[generaldexter]

Pride?

Its Obvious did you hear the Borther was Holy

Prov.11[2] When pride cometh, then cometh shame: but with the lowly is wisdom.

Prov16 [18] Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall.

Prov.29[23] A man's pride shall bring him low: but honour shall uphold the humble in spirit.

[polymath]

generaldexter, on 16 March 2012 - 09:55 AM, said:

Hahahahahah kikikiki

That is why (if you see my speach) I am always humble because i know it is long way to heaven

Gal.6
1. Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted.

You are too self conscious....why do you need to point out to us that you are in the right by being humble in your response.

Let me not subtract from the topic by focusing on non essentials.

Anyway have a blessed day.

[polymath]

generaldexter, on 16 March 2012 - 10:12 AM, said:

Pride?

Its Obvious did you hear the Borther was Holy

Prov.11[2] When pride cometh, then cometh shame: but with the lowly is wisdom.

Prov16 [18] Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall.

Prov.29[23] A man's pride shall bring him low: but honour shall uphold the humble in spirit.

Ok I get you. Thats why its good to have generals in the army of God.

[generaldexter]

polymath, on 16 March 2012 - 10:14 AM, said:

You are too self conscious....why do you need to point out to us that you are in the right by being humble in your response.Let me not subtract from the topic by focusing on non essentials.

Is this a COMPLEMENT or What?
2Pet.3[14] Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless

Why I said it, is because i know what the attitude of my fellow formites (speaking words not seasoned with salt)and because i am conscious/deligent of myself and the kind of my religion.

So that you can learn that Religous is not Philosophy but it is Life. So that you may know that Wisdom is not Strife but Peace.

But

James
13] Who is a wise man and endued with knowledge among you? let him shew out of a good conversation his works with meekness of wisdom.
[14] But if ye have bitter envying and strife in your hearts, glory not, and lie not against the truth.
[15] This wisdom descendeth not from above, but is earthly, sensual, devilish.
[16] For where envying and strife is, there is confusion and every evil work.
[17] But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, and easy to be intreated, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality, and without hypocrisy.
[18] And the fruit of righteousness is sown in peace of them that make peace.

[Life]

Yeah I get you guys: but can someone try reconcile whaqt you have said with this:
1John 3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
3:10 In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.

Simply put: Akwasi you were never a Christian from the beginning: What your wife gave you is called the WORD of Knowledge- most likely based on what she observed you behavedb with those women, and she fore-warned you, but because you were not 'spiritually alert' like Adam & Eve, you fell right into the sin which you had been fore-warned.
MY MAN, RECEIVE CHRIST IN YOUR LIFE AND BE BORN AGAIN. And the above verse will have a meaning.
Shalom.

[generaldexter]

Life, on 16 March 2012 - 12:53 PM, said:

Yeah I get you guys: but can someone try reconcile whaqt you have said with this:
1John 3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
3:10 In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.

Simply put: Akwasi you were never a Christian from the beginning: What your wife gave you is called the WORD of Knowledge- most likely based on what she observed you behavedb with those women, and she fore-warned you, but because you were not 'spiritually alert' like Adam & Eve, you fell right into the sin which you had been fore-warned.
MY MAN, RECEIVE CHRIST IN YOUR LIFE AND BE BORN AGAIN. And the above verse will have a meaning.
Shalom.

I agree with your exhortation to this brother, I tell the brother shall go on like this for a while (could be worse), until he comes to his senses. Right now someone has taken over control. Only Grace shall bring him up.

Reconciliation

Building case

1John3:9-10 is very explicit that anyone who SIN is a child of the devil

Yet David murdered and went into adultery and Repented and Confessed and He remained a child of GOD. (It is repentance that matters,Cain could not repent)

So what is REALLY SIN - Sin is unbelief to the truth ([2] Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:...)

7] Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.
[8] And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:
[9] Of sin, because they believe not on me;
[10] Of righteousness, because I go to my Father, and ye see me no more;
[11] Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged.

Reconciliation and Conclusion

It is vicious cycle:

1John 1
[8] If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
[9] If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
[10] If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

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1John.2
[1] My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous: (RECONCILE HERE)
[2] And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
[3] And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.

Conclusion

No man is good, yet be perfect (to the best of your knowledge, deal with your sins) and have no condamnation because the Holy Ghost will not be silent before one's 'conscience is seared withhot iron'( feelingless thou vile)
God help us all brothers, be sober the devil walketh about seeking whom he may devour

"Kudenga kure kunoenda vakachena pamoyo
Kunoenda vakachana
Ho hey yere, kunoenda vakachena pamoyo" Song by Vabati Vajehovha"

[polymath]