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[Chuckels]

I love the IPL and all 20-20, 1 day is also very good but many true cricket fans don’t like these formats and see them as inferior.

I was watching AB de Villiers and Chris Gayle yesterday and I saw some of the finest batting I have ever seen, the whole game was great, at 20 for 2 it looked like it was all over and then those two got going.

So my question is, why do the real cricket fans see this format as inferior, are the bowlers sad or maybe the pitches are not as good?

[Bambadatya]

The 20/20 version is regarded as inferior by the cricket purists that are set on the  5 day test and the 50 overs version.
They regard it as a meaningless slugfest that panders to the lowest common denominator. I personally think that it was marketing genius!!

[Tadzoka-hedu]

20/20 is cricket trying to modernise itself.  today's society demands instant gratification, instant messaging, instant coffee, instant everything.   20/20 is good for TV and a full match can be screened on primetime.  people can go and watch a 20/20 match after work, even kids can concentrate long enough to watch the whole match.  20/20 brings in a whole new demography which is what marketers want!  Purists however say this is corrupted and has given rise to the IPL which is rather corrupted by too much money and could soon be tainted by match fixing and perfomance enhencement products.  cheating is bound to increase but for me 20/20 is faster and brings more runs per over hence more entertaining!

[John Kachere]

Tadzoka-hedu, on 14 September 2012 - 09:53 PM, said:

20/20 is cricket trying to modernise itself.  today's society demands instant gratification, instant messaging, instant coffee, instant everything.   20/20 is good for TV and a full match can be screened on primetime.  people can go and watch a 20/20 match after work, even kids can concentrate long enough to watch the whole match.  20/20 brings in a whole new demography which is what marketers want!  Purists however say this is corrupted and has given rise to the IPL which is rather corrupted by too much money and could soon be tainted by match fixing and perfomance enhencement products.  cheating is bound to increase but for me 20/20 is faster and brings more runs per over hence more entertaining!

if the world prefers a quickie so be it . As a marketing tool, its great! You know what the World needs and you give them that

personaly i prefer test cricket which remains the epitomy of the game. Test cricket is like a war where 2 commanders (skippers) are trying to outmanouver each other over a 5 day battle. In that time you either fight to win or you avoid defeat. You are not in a hurry, your mental strength is tested and your skills are tested.

[SavageHunter]

Good posts but I am still confused as to why the same batsman can score big in one day, 50 over’s or 20/20 but when it comes to test cricket they get nowhere near as many runs despite taking 6 times as long.
Must be the wicket???

[John Kachere]

SavageHunter, on 08 October 2012 - 11:38 AM, said:

Good posts but I am still confused as to why the same batsman can score big in one day, 50 over’s or 20/20 but when it comes to test cricket they get nowhere near as many runs despite taking 6 times as long.
Must be the wicket???

I dont think the pitches are more bowler friendly in Tests. Remember some players find it easier to play test cricket than ODI.

There are various issues to the failure of batsmen in Test cricket. One may think of the fact that there are no fielding restrictions, Overs are not restricted for bowlers, The wides. The fact that the game will last 5 days means one has to pace themselves.
A test match is played 1st for the win, which means you can go for the big total and declare or bowl your opposition quickly. Depending on the opposition and state of the match a team/batsman may decide to play for a draw/save the test which means you do not score much. Occupying the crease is another strategy in test cricket ...


The concentration on the crease for a session means you cant be hitting sixes as we see in T20. In a T20 match even if partnerships last 2 overs each you will still finish the allocated overs. I still hope that the hard hitting we see from the tailenders in T20 and ODIs will one day come to test cricket. Some draws we see will vanish ...

[SavageHunter]

You raise a good point with the fielding restrictions but I do think the wickets in limited over’s format are much tamer than the test wickets.

If not why not just let your blitz batters nail the ball, so if you had 3 top hitters they could amass a total of around 150 – 200 and then the test players could see out the rest of the innings for a decent score.

[John Kachere]

SavageHunter, on 17 October 2012 - 09:17 PM, said:

You raise a good point with the fielding restrictions but I do think the wickets in limited over’s format are much tamer than the test wickets.

If not why not just let your blitz batters nail the ball, so if you had 3 top hitters they could amass a total of around 150 – 200 and then the test players could see out the rest of the innings for a decent score.

In some countries if not all countries the test wicket is the same as the ODI wicket...

Teams still do have big hitters, almost all test teams have big hitters (1 or 2); Sehwag, Dilshan, Warner, KP, Gayle, Mculum, Akmal for examples. But due to bowling options its difficult to hit big for long and if its done in a short time and wickets lost you lose the game, remember you are looking at a 5 day match... But I hope to see that T20 batting method employed to win test matches instead of the dull draws that normaly happen...

It will be real fun to watch a team chase 270 in the last 2 to 2.5 sessions of the day

[SavageHunter]

I get what you are saying now, in limited over’s the short period of time gives them the confidence to go for it, in test cricket the length of the match makes them nervous to get out too quickly.

I do love test cricket but only if I am there, it is a fine day resting in the sun with a couple of cold beers, lunch and basically just being lazy.

[david100]

I think pitches should be friendly for both batsman and bowler.So test cricket may help both bowler and batsman.

Edited by david100, 07 February 2013 - 10:00 AM.

[John Kachere]

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