How much does it take to build to build 5 bedroom highdensity house and how long does it take to do that will enough money available.
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How much does it take to build to build 5 bedroom highdensity house
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Posted 14 October 2012 - 07:22 PM
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Posted 14 October 2012 - 07:22 PM
How long is a piece of string? (I've always wanted to say that)
Gentlemen you would need to provide a bit more information in order for us to be able to assist you.
When you say "a high density house" what do you mean? Are we skimping on quality? Are we using cement bricks rather than solid commons?
Cost depends on a number of factors.
Size of house, room dimensions, number and size of windows, quality of finishes etc.
Unfortunately 5 bedrooms doesn't tell us very much. If you have the plans available I could do a comphrehensive BoQ for you.
If everything is available and money is not a factor it would take 8 weeks to build a single story house measuring around 300sqm. Building a double storey house would take 20 weeks as we would need to make an allowance of 14-21 days for the curing of the 1st floor slab.
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Gentlemen you would need to provide a bit more information in order for us to be able to assist you.
When you say "a high density house" what do you mean? Are we skimping on quality? Are we using cement bricks rather than solid commons?
Cost depends on a number of factors.
Size of house, room dimensions, number and size of windows, quality of finishes etc.
Unfortunately 5 bedrooms doesn't tell us very much. If you have the plans available I could do a comphrehensive BoQ for you.
If everything is available and money is not a factor it would take 8 weeks to build a single story house measuring around 300sqm. Building a double storey house would take 20 weeks as we would need to make an allowance of 14-21 days for the curing of the 1st floor slab.
2 cents dzangu.
If you know yourself and your enemy, you will not fear battle.
If you know yourself but not your enemy, you will lose a battle for every one that you win; and if you do not know yourself and do not know your enemy, you will never see victory.
If you know yourself but not your enemy, you will lose a battle for every one that you win; and if you do not know yourself and do not know your enemy, you will never see victory.
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Posted 14 October 2012 - 09:04 PM
Thanks Shasha. Kozvingaita mariiko.....5 rooms-kuwadzana-quaility (just ok).
What is the cost range.....I have a stand which i got for $5k and i had a budget of $10k therefore expect total costs to be $15k compared to buying a similar house for $25-$35k.
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What is the cost range.....I have a stand which i got for $5k and i had a budget of $10k therefore expect total costs to be $15k compared to buying a similar house for $25-$35k.
Totoita, on 14 October 2012 - 07:22 PM, said:
How long is a piece of string? (I've always wanted to say that)
Gentlemen you would need to provide a bit more information in order for us to be able to assist you.
When you say "a high density house" what do you mean? Are we skimping on quality? Are we using cement bricks rather than solid commons?
Cost depends on a number of factors.
Size of house, room dimensions, number and size of windows, quality of finishes etc.
Unfortunately 5 bedrooms doesn't tell us very much. If you have the plans available I could do a comphrehensive BoQ for you.
If everything is available and money is not a factor it would take 8 weeks to build a single story house measuring around 300sqm. Building a double storey house would take 20 weeks as we would need to make an allowance of 14-21 days for the curing of the 1st floor slab.
2 cents dzangu.
Gentlemen you would need to provide a bit more information in order for us to be able to assist you.
When you say "a high density house" what do you mean? Are we skimping on quality? Are we using cement bricks rather than solid commons?
Cost depends on a number of factors.
Size of house, room dimensions, number and size of windows, quality of finishes etc.
Unfortunately 5 bedrooms doesn't tell us very much. If you have the plans available I could do a comphrehensive BoQ for you.
If everything is available and money is not a factor it would take 8 weeks to build a single story house measuring around 300sqm. Building a double storey house would take 20 weeks as we would need to make an allowance of 14-21 days for the curing of the 1st floor slab.
2 cents dzangu.
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Posted 15 October 2012 - 06:54 AM
One thing you need to realize about Zimbabwe at the moment is that for certain houses in certain places it is much cheaper to buy than build. This can be determined on a case by case basis.
For an imaginary five (5) roomed house comprising of a living room, kitchen, bathroom, three bedrooms with small verandah.
Footprint: 150sqm
Square footprint: 13000 x 12000
Assuming normal soil conditions.
You would need;(assuming your house is in Chitungwiza)
Delivered quantities;
23 000 common bricks: $4600 @2000
20 m3 3/4 Stones : $1200 @600
35 m3 River sand: $. 700 @200
50 m3 Pit sand: $ 950 @190
Cement: $3000 @15
Window & door frames: $. 870
Concrete lintels: $. 280
Roofing timber: $1200
asbestos: $1000
Materials Total : $13800
Labour : $ 3400 (20%)
Time frame: 4 weeks (one would take the shortest amount of time for a project this size for it to make economic sense)
Note there are no electricals or plumbing included.
You are not going to be able to build a house for $10 000 mkoma, unless we reverse engineer it and make it a 2 bedroom house with no roof. For the five rooms stated above it would be around $17/$18/$19k.
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For an imaginary five (5) roomed house comprising of a living room, kitchen, bathroom, three bedrooms with small verandah.
Footprint: 150sqm
Square footprint: 13000 x 12000
Assuming normal soil conditions.
You would need;(assuming your house is in Chitungwiza)
Delivered quantities;
23 000 common bricks: $4600 @2000
20 m3 3/4 Stones : $1200 @600
35 m3 River sand: $. 700 @200
50 m3 Pit sand: $ 950 @190
Cement: $3000 @15
Window & door frames: $. 870
Concrete lintels: $. 280
Roofing timber: $1200
asbestos: $1000
Materials Total : $13800
Labour : $ 3400 (20%)
Time frame: 4 weeks (one would take the shortest amount of time for a project this size for it to make economic sense)
Note there are no electricals or plumbing included.
You are not going to be able to build a house for $10 000 mkoma, unless we reverse engineer it and make it a 2 bedroom house with no roof. For the five rooms stated above it would be around $17/$18/$19k.
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If you know yourself and your enemy, you will not fear battle.
If you know yourself but not your enemy, you will lose a battle for every one that you win; and if you do not know yourself and do not know your enemy, you will never see victory.
If you know yourself but not your enemy, you will lose a battle for every one that you win; and if you do not know yourself and do not know your enemy, you will never see victory.
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Posted 15 October 2012 - 07:28 AM
Having looked at your figures above, it is therefore cheaper to buy or build? Cause buying a Stand 5 grand, and then building it for 20 grand, it's 25 grand, so now wandering if the stress of actually having to build a house is worth it, or just buying a complete house. I was also looking at a budget of at least 10 grand as well.
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Posted 15 October 2012 - 10:58 AM
tsobo, on 15 October 2012 - 07:28 AM, said:
Having looked at your figures above, it is therefore cheaper to buy or build? Cause buying a Stand 5 grand, and then building it for 20 grand, it's 25 grand, so now wandering if the stress of actually having to build a house is worth it, or just buying a complete house. I was also looking at a budget of at least 10 grand as well.
I think Totoita is being very conservative with the figures. Even with $20K U wont build such a house..and ofcourse buying in Zim is way cheaper than building. To complete that house with electricals and plumbing paint etc..U will have done very well yo use only $40K.
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Posted 15 October 2012 - 01:36 PM
Thanks gents...this was very informative. Still on the same question. I think $25k is good estimation. However Im a bit confused with prices of these houses dzeHighdensity…Kuwadzan, Budas ,etc. my source of prices is www.classifieds.co.zw the prices are range are around $30k -$40k. Is this the case…or these prices are inflated….ndakazvinonokera….When Zim$ was out of control I could buy a house with only £5000 (5 years ago). Anyone with uptodate information about prices of a decent 5 bedroomed Kuwadzana, Budiriros,Mucheke (Masvingo)…just to confirm the price range …
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Posted 15 October 2012 - 03:02 PM
Dindingwe, on 15 October 2012 - 10:58 AM, said:
I think Totoita is being very conservative with the figures. Even with $20K U wont build such a house..and ofcourse buying in Zim is way cheaper than building. To complete that house with electricals and plumbing paint etc..U will have done very well yo use only $40K.
We are talking about 150 squares here.
Build a very similar core house in Dzivarasekwa a few months ago for a client, total cost of contract was $19700
Scope of work included plastering, ceiling boards but no skimming, two coats of undercoat and tile coverage of 25sqm in bathroom & kitchen only.
I tend to advise my clients not to over capitalize high density properties as they tend to have a price ceiling and a lot of the guys are building to sell in which case it wouldn't make any sense to invest $45k in a house that will be worth only $40.
Prices at the moment are hovering around $30-$35k, as any reputable estate agent and they will tell you that This segment of the property market is the fastest moving, average prices were around $30k last year but there seems to be a steady upward rise owing to demand.
Similar things are happening on the housing stand market where prices of stands in desirable areas have risen 7% over the last year, again owing to demand.
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If you know yourself and your enemy, you will not fear battle.
If you know yourself but not your enemy, you will lose a battle for every one that you win; and if you do not know yourself and do not know your enemy, you will never see victory.
If you know yourself but not your enemy, you will lose a battle for every one that you win; and if you do not know yourself and do not know your enemy, you will never see victory.
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Posted 18 October 2012 - 09:03 PM
Totoita, on 15 October 2012 - 03:02 PM, said:
We are talking about 150 squares here.
Build a very similar core house in Dzivarasekwa a few months ago for a client, total cost of contract was $19700
Scope of work included plastering, ceiling boards but no skimming, two coats of undercoat and tile coverage of 25sqm in bathroom & kitchen only.
I tend to advise my clients not to over capitalize high density properties as they tend to have a price ceiling and a lot of the guys are building to sell in which case it wouldn't make any sense to invest $45k in a house that will be worth only $40.
Prices at the moment are hovering around $30-$35k, as any reputable estate agent and they will tell you that This segment of the property market is the fastest moving, average prices were around $30k last year but there seems to be a steady upward rise owing to demand.
Similar things are happening on the housing stand market where prices of stands in desirable areas have risen 7% over the last year, again owing to demand.
2 cents dzangu
Build a very similar core house in Dzivarasekwa a few months ago for a client, total cost of contract was $19700
Scope of work included plastering, ceiling boards but no skimming, two coats of undercoat and tile coverage of 25sqm in bathroom & kitchen only.
I tend to advise my clients not to over capitalize high density properties as they tend to have a price ceiling and a lot of the guys are building to sell in which case it wouldn't make any sense to invest $45k in a house that will be worth only $40.
Prices at the moment are hovering around $30-$35k, as any reputable estate agent and they will tell you that This segment of the property market is the fastest moving, average prices were around $30k last year but there seems to be a steady upward rise owing to demand.
Similar things are happening on the housing stand market where prices of stands in desirable areas have risen 7% over the last year, again owing to demand.
2 cents dzangu
What will the inclusive cost be after painting plumbing and all ZESA costs?
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Posted 18 October 2012 - 09:04 PM
puffdadddy, on 15 October 2012 - 12:44 PM, said:
40k, come on, yu now exergarating, 25 k max, baba but note it will be a new house--l would build instead
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Posted 20 December 2012 - 12:00 PM
at the momentt here is a property boom in bubble in zim, its actually smart notto be buying houses or stands there unless yu are certain you going to live there: analyse these real diasporan situations
Lets say yu save 50000 pounds::: it will get you a stand in harare north ---about 3000 sqm currently:::: then you look at the land/soil for another 5-6 years to raise another 50000 pounds to try and build s-thing..... this a afinincial disaster or decision---but many have and are doing that............. how much is a house in the uk, about 120000 pounds::: others wld make a down payment of 50 000, and pay of therest--makes sense to me... now how much is a house in pomona, 200000US, apa they want cash--(remeber this is one of the poorest countries on earth--yes l said it); now l have been to see some of these houses with these prices tags, and trust me yu need to add an extra 50000us to just work on the house---most are old and in bad state, the neihbourhoods are bad, water systems etc. And yu pay cash. So really the prices are artificial, and everything is peged to the dollar--yu see wen l go to RSa with my euros, l feel the diffirence, coz 1 euro is 11 rands, there in an advantage imperative of the curency l earn, in zim, its should be the case bu the dollar artificial stablises the issue , hence yu lose if yu are holding a pound----they trade as if yu just landed in new york , wen yu are in kadoma. So basic economics wld tell yu not to buy or invest in zim yet--- try investing in the diaspora baba. its bubble in zim and it will burst they always do, we cant use the us dollar for ever. so relax, and do s-thing in the diaspora-- a stand for 80000 dollars, in pomona, zimbabwe, and they want cash, in zim, are we crasy
Lets say yu save 50000 pounds::: it will get you a stand in harare north ---about 3000 sqm currently:::: then you look at the land/soil for another 5-6 years to raise another 50000 pounds to try and build s-thing..... this a afinincial disaster or decision---but many have and are doing that............. how much is a house in the uk, about 120000 pounds::: others wld make a down payment of 50 000, and pay of therest--makes sense to me... now how much is a house in pomona, 200000US, apa they want cash--(remeber this is one of the poorest countries on earth--yes l said it); now l have been to see some of these houses with these prices tags, and trust me yu need to add an extra 50000us to just work on the house---most are old and in bad state, the neihbourhoods are bad, water systems etc. And yu pay cash. So really the prices are artificial, and everything is peged to the dollar--yu see wen l go to RSa with my euros, l feel the diffirence, coz 1 euro is 11 rands, there in an advantage imperative of the curency l earn, in zim, its should be the case bu the dollar artificial stablises the issue , hence yu lose if yu are holding a pound----they trade as if yu just landed in new york , wen yu are in kadoma. So basic economics wld tell yu not to buy or invest in zim yet--- try investing in the diaspora baba. its bubble in zim and it will burst they always do, we cant use the us dollar for ever. so relax, and do s-thing in the diaspora-- a stand for 80000 dollars, in pomona, zimbabwe, and they want cash, in zim, are we crasy
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Posted 20 December 2012 - 12:09 PM
if yu so kin on zim, l did buy a flat or something--rather get decent rent and finace yu morgage here. but zve stand, currently zvakadakwa----and the deeds office--its circus unorasa mari takatarisa....... leave those things baba....Ask mdala akambo vaka, its not easy and a lot ofthings can go wrong, everything has risk--zvidhina zvino biwa, builders can make mistakes etc, wakanzi imba its 45 000 to build, trust me. they mean x2, so many issues come up, they might need to blast matombo pasi etc. and if yu are in the diaspora maone.
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Posted 26 January 2013 - 11:13 PM
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